<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131</id><updated>2012-02-16T10:45:49.177-05:00</updated><category term='thoughts'/><title type='text'>Logos Church</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Derik</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09081254391790404032</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RZoUICbZifI/AAAAAAAAAAM/f3XVjRXz39g/s320/IMG_2042_1.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>31</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-7381191592311516542</id><published>2008-01-31T09:44:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-01-31T09:50:43.050-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Prayer for Mercer</title><content type='html'>We would love to have your prayers this week and on ward.&lt;br /&gt;One of our 1st year students died/found dead yesterday. There is a possiblity that her death might be suicide. It's hard to gauge where people are at with the whole situtation. Pray for wisdom. Pray for compassion. Pray for gentleness from the Christians on campus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;nnena&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-7381191592311516542?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/7381191592311516542/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=7381191592311516542&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/7381191592311516542'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/7381191592311516542'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2008/01/prayer-for-mercer.html' title='Prayer for Mercer'/><author><name>nnena</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-3071011045387622345</id><published>2007-12-02T19:38:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-02T19:59:00.338-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Finding Common Ground</title><content type='html'>Hello all. I found an article that we all probably need to read. It's an interview with Bono. (Bono, as some of you may know, is the lead singer of a little-known Irish group called U2). Pretty cool stuff. It's important to note that the guy interviewing him is an atheist:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/music/interviews/2005/bono-0805.html"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.christianitytoday.com/music/interviews/2005/bono-0805.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just thought it was a cool example of someone finding a way to express the truth of Jesus in a way his audience could understand.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-3071011045387622345?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/3071011045387622345/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=3071011045387622345&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/3071011045387622345'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/3071011045387622345'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2007/12/finding-common-ground.html' title='Finding Common Ground'/><author><name>Doug</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17322663844223985551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-3653004581757814587</id><published>2007-11-17T08:16:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-11-17T08:36:13.127-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Kids say the durnest things</title><content type='html'>Because God has a sense of drama... or humor... he has a knack for letting life play out the conversations you are having with a friend. Earlier this week i was texting back and forth with a friend of mine about some life stuff. Such as when God says no and the disappoint hurts... Well while I and this friend were texting I had the two little boys (age 3 and 2) with me. And at the time of the texting I and the oldest were having a bit of a struggle of wills... the whole time it was going on I was struck with the thought of how much my life and the conversation  mirrored dean's actions. And below is the e-mail that came from the struggle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; *********&lt;br /&gt;I had taken dean and elliot to the Indian burial mounds for a walk. We first stopped off at a smaller a set of mounds near the entrance of the park. After we went there I told the boys that I have another place that I wanted to take them. You see another part of the park was so cool and had an old lake that was slowly growing in with plants… there were cranes and other cool birds there. So we loaded up into the car and drove to the other side of the park. We got out of the car and started to walk up a set of stairs leading to the lake and other mounds.  As we walked up the stairs we got to a point where we could continue to go up the mound or turn left and go down the mound to the lake. I started down the stairs towards the lake and called Dean to follow me.&lt;br /&gt;“No Nnena. I want to go up the mound.”&lt;br /&gt;“But Dean you have already been up a mound before I want to show you something new.”&lt;br /&gt;“NO NNENA!”&lt;br /&gt;“I don’t want to go there! You follow ME! YOU go where I am going!”&lt;br /&gt;Really little boy? I am suppossed to follow you? Really? He was so frustrated and nothing I could tell him would get him to understand that I had another, cooler place to show him. And the place that he wanted to go was the same but I had something new, a new adventure.&lt;br /&gt;“No dean we are going this way I want to show you something.” Dean started to pitch a fit.&lt;br /&gt;“No I don’t want to. I don’t want to.”&lt;br /&gt;“Dean follow me.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And elliot and I started down the path heading to the water. The same water that dean earlier wanted to go to that had the cool birds and all sort of stuff. Dean reluctantly followed us. I had so much more for Dean to see… and Dean simply wanted to go up the mound. And not that it was wrong but there was so much more that I wanted him to see. I knew that it was cool around the lake and I wanted dean to see it. We would eventually go up the mound. And I even told Dean this… we will eventually go up the mound but just follow me, come see this, I promise we will go back.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So he followed. Dragging his heels. Actually he was almost a 100 yards behind me. And then elliot and I discovered a cool hole where snakes might have lived. (Looking back I am glad no snakes lived in the hole)   And we started playing with it…. and dean slowly started following us. And then a huge white crane flew off and dean stood watching the bird.&lt;br /&gt;“Look nnena look.”&lt;br /&gt;“I see it dean.”&lt;br /&gt;And then he came over to join us and played in the hole. And then we started walking around the lake the same lake that he would not come to earlier because he wanted to go up the mound.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And we started having all sort of adventures. Something was following us in the bushes…oh my goodness!  :) And we went stomping about and gradually Dean forgot that he wanted to go up the mound. Finally it was time to start heading back.&lt;br /&gt;“Ok dean do you want to climb up the mound. Yes? Ok let’s go.”  And I let him race ahead of me and he climbed to the top of the mound while elliot and I followed. We got to the top and could see everything, the city, the lake we were walking around and it was wonderful and glorious and yeah great.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dean didn’t trust me… but finally curiosity brought him to see what I was doing. And then he followed me. As everything was going on I started thinking in my head about our conversation… actually a lot of texts took place during the struggle between Dean and me. And I couldn’t help but see the similarities. Dean had what he wanted, a desire, but I wanted to show him something else something more. I guess that is where the faith is… do I really believe that you have something more for me God? Some thing better and good. Recently the idea that God has been tossing around this week is his sovereignty. Sara e-mailed me yesterday about how awesome and comforting it was that he is sovereign… and the thing we talked about that the God who loves us is sovereign and in control. And he is a loving Father who sees more than we see. That doesn’t stop us from being frustrated or hurt when he thwarts our desire… but do I believe him to still be good? And if I do what does that mean about the events surrounding me, the no’s that hurt. The people that reject… is that somehow good too?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The hardest thing about my walk has been trusting God with my heart… what if He disappoints me? I am always impressed with people who trust God and get hurt but at least try. At least you try…and I think there is faith in that.&lt;br /&gt;*****&lt;br /&gt;Anyways, thought i would share that with y'all. :) Have a good week!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-3653004581757814587?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/3653004581757814587/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=3653004581757814587&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/3653004581757814587'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/3653004581757814587'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2007/11/kids-say-durnest-things.html' title='Kids say the durnest things'/><author><name>nnena</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-663033546735715697</id><published>2007-11-12T22:39:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2007-11-12T22:41:53.881-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Double duty</title><content type='html'>So I have been cheating... I have been posting on my blog instead of this one. Sorry for the unfaithfulness. :)&lt;br /&gt;But here is something from my blog... random thoughts of sorts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So last weekend we got into this discussion of the 'self'. And how until modern times there was not a concept of self. There was almost a lack of awareness of self. And we talked about how here in America we are so focused on me, I the self... and are we miserable because of it.When I read my friends blog and I think about my own life I am miserable when I focus on self. We keep looking for this balance between 'loving myself' and not being consumed by self, and knowing thy self... is that the right focus? And honestly no one seems to be happy... no one seems to have hit on the right balance. Those who 'love' their selves seem no happier than those who hate self. But when we lose ourselves for something greater life has more meaning. Why else would people die of their country or other people because there is something greater and richer than living life for just me. Somewhere inside of us we are tuned to truly be happy when we are not the center of our worlds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yesterday in Bible study we started talking about community (in relation to our sin being communal not just individual). And Janeen brought up the point that community is so much bigger than just our group of people, or our nation, that maybe the community is the whole world (when you take it to the logical end). And we talked about that when we are focused on the good of the community serving one and other naturally 'we' are taken care of because we are all focused on our actions being for the good of the community and other people act based on how it will effect us. Hum it reminds me of so many things... 'look out not only for your own interest." "they will know you are mine by the love you have for one and another". The list goes on and on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I used to fight against my parents and their worry and concern of the community. "Nnena don't you know that the other kids are looking up to you." "Don't you know your sisters will follow you in what you do?" And I used to fight against it, let me be my own person, let me do what I want, stop stiflingly me. They were trying to engrain in me this idea that my actions affect others, so act carefully knowing that other are watching.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-663033546735715697?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/663033546735715697/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=663033546735715697&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/663033546735715697'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/663033546735715697'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2007/11/double-duty.html' title='Double duty'/><author><name>nnena</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-7847048242168653316</id><published>2007-11-04T13:59:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-11-04T15:23:17.330-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Let that be enough</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;...be content with what you have, for he has said, "I will never leave you nor forsake you." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;" id="en-ESV-30231" class="sup"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;So we can confidently say,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;   "The Lord is my helper;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;    I will not fear;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;what can man do to me?"&lt;br /&gt;-Hebrews 13:5-6&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;So it hit me today what's been wrong with me. I've been buying into some deep-seated, subtle, and deadly lies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've believed the lie that there is anything I need other than Jesus. I've felt that if I could just have this, or that, or her, I'd be happy. Sometimes that isn't Christ's way. Sometimes the "right" thing isn't supposed to happen, isn't really right. Sometimes the road we are given to walk is broken. Sometimes all you get out of following Jesus is...Jesus. God has been teaching me this, and I've been slowly letting it become a part of me. I've been grudgingly dealing with it-sort of accepting that Jesus is, in some theoretical sense, enough, while stubbornly refusing to be happy unless I get what I want.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today I'm trying to take it a step further. Today I'm walking away from the lie that Jesus is only enough for me to limp through life, die, and let everything get better. I am walking towards the truth that Jesus is also enough for me to be whole. For me to be fulfilled. For life to be satisfying. I want to move past acknowledging that Christ is all I need, and refusing to be happy unless I have more. I want to run screaming into the truth that Christ &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;is&lt;/span&gt; happiness. Don't get me wrong; this world is not my home, I don't belong here, and I will never be completely at peace until I am with Christ in Heaven. Still, I'm embracing the idea that even now, Christ is with me on earth. And that changes &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;everything&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those of you who have walked through life with me over the past year or so know that these lessons were not easy, and those of you who are still walking beside me know that I continue to struggle with them. I haven't mastered them yet, but today, I am acknowledging that they are true, and I am choosing to walk forward in them. This world has torn my heart out, and sometimes I wish it would stay out, and I could just be numb. But we were not made for anesthesia; we were made for life-joy, pain, and all. So I am going to trust Jesus, who paid for my joy with His pain. I am going to trust Him with my heart, with my friends, and with my family. And one day, I will look back on this twisted road, and realize that it was straight. I will realize that it was exactly what God wanted for me. And one day I will realize that what God wanted was best. I love ya'll, and I pray this for you as well. God bless you,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Doug&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me know that you hear me/Let me know your touch/Let me know that you love me/And let that be enough&lt;br /&gt;-J. Foreman&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span id="en-ESV-30230" class="sup"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-7847048242168653316?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/7847048242168653316/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=7847048242168653316&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/7847048242168653316'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/7847048242168653316'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2007/11/let-that-be-enough.html' title='Let that be enough'/><author><name>Doug</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17322663844223985551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-7130109691004013983</id><published>2007-10-30T23:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-30T23:46:37.990-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Still Blogging.</title><content type='html'>Hi there.  I haven't abandoned the act of blogging.  I'm still finishing up some thoughts on the blog I kept this summer in Germany.  If you'd like to check it out, you can find it &lt;a href="http://drockindeutschland.wordpress.com/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  I will return to blogging on the Logos site soon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--Derik&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-7130109691004013983?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/7130109691004013983/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=7130109691004013983&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/7130109691004013983'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/7130109691004013983'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2007/10/still-blogging.html' title='Still Blogging.'/><author><name>Derik</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09081254391790404032</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RZoUICbZifI/AAAAAAAAAAM/f3XVjRXz39g/s320/IMG_2042_1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-3288751346517140530</id><published>2007-10-18T02:09:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-18T09:37:52.715-04:00</updated><title type='text'>brokenness</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;I'm trying to write a blog about the journey God has me on, and that will be up here soon, but in the mean time, know the journey has involved a good deal of brokenness, and it's been hard letting go of all the illusions of control I had built for myself. There's a blog I like to read called &lt;a href="http://www.myspace.com/towriteloveonherarms"&gt;To Write Love on Her Arms&lt;/a&gt;.  I often head there when I'm discouraged or weary. These quotes were there:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;You can't control what breaks, but you can control the kind of person you're becoming.  Hard hearts that transform into hearts that beat for the things that God's heart beats for.  &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;We control our response.   &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;It is easy to say, "Life could have been so much easier... Life could have been so much better."  We look back and see a straighter path, but the truth is that we are shaped in the places where our path twists and turns.  We are shaped in the long journey.  There are no guarantees from God, except that He will go with us. &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;Who have you been trying to control?  It is time to surrender that person.&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;Do you live with untold anxiety?  Are you waiting for the 6-month plan?  &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;All we get is today.  God is with us on this journey.  Always. &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;Let go.  &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Jesus says 'Follow me' and He doesn't say much more.  &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;May you be okay with the journey.  May you identify, with the spirit of God leading you, what you can control and what you can't.  May you surrender what you cannot control to the God of the universe.  &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;I fully realize that the purpose of this blog is to catalog our own journeys in our own words. Just the same, these words were a huge encouragement to me, and I wanted to share them with ya'll. I can attest to their truth; God has been teaching me that He is enough for me, and He has been teaching me that by stripping away many of people and things I've held near and dear. It's been painful, but ultimately good.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; I trust Him more now; and at the same time, I have so much more to learn. Surrender is so hard.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-3288751346517140530?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/3288751346517140530/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=3288751346517140530&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/3288751346517140530'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/3288751346517140530'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2007/10/brokenness.html' title='brokenness'/><author><name>Doug</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17322663844223985551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-3111204691485652345</id><published>2007-09-27T22:06:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-09-27T22:08:45.291-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Awakening</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;At dinner last Sunday night, Derik posed an excellent question. If you could encompass the past year of your walk with Christ in a single word, what would it be? My word was “awakening,” and Derik asked what prompted my awakening. Obviously God was behind it, but how did He accomplish it? &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;God is not forceful like our enemy. He does not get in our faces and yell and scream to get our attention. His voice is calm and loving, not loud and obnoxious, and I have long felt His gentle, yet firm, tug on my heart. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I was complacent – to apply an overused church word. I was not deeply engaged in life. I was merely getting buy. God’s tug on my heart grew stronger as I graduated from PSI this May and realized that my life is before me and how I live the next few months sets the direction for my future. Sure, I won’t be locked in permanently. I can always change directions down the road, but now is the best time to set the direction I want, while I am at a crossroads. It will be harder to change directions later than it is to set a good one now. Thus, I began to awaken.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;A few weeks later, I attended a Christian booksellers’ conference and met with an editor who works for a major publishing company, and she was interested in my devotional book idea. She requested a sample chapter and a few other book proposal items, and I got to work. During those weeks, it was like I woke up from a deep slumber. I came alive. I have not felt that energetic and purposeful in a very long time. I worked full-time six days a week on that proposal until it was finished, and then I started working on other projects. As I wait to hear back from the editor, I am writing short stories, something I enjoy immensely, and I am much more involved in and committed to Logos and our ministry. I am more engaged in my jobs and find more satisfaction in my work. Life in general is brighter now that I am living it, instead of just surviving it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I would love to hear from the rest of you. What word sums up the last year of your walk with Christ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-3111204691485652345?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/3111204691485652345/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=3111204691485652345&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/3111204691485652345'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/3111204691485652345'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2007/09/awakening.html' title='Awakening'/><author><name>Brian</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-8655273532381493141</id><published>2007-07-08T15:54:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-07-09T18:33:20.133-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='thoughts'/><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>Ok guys, let me try this again.  This is the first time I've blogged here, so I'm still trying to figure out the technicalities.  Anywho, I've written about 4 prefaces now, but they pretty much just say this:  I'm an all or nothing kind of gal.  I don't write regularly, but when I do, I spill my guts.  So that's your warning!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’ve been reading a book called GET OUT OF THAT PIT.  Sounds like a cliché self-help book, I know.  But I don’t care.  It IS a self-help book.  But if no one actually read them (whether they buy them at the local B&amp;N or they quietly purchase them on ebay or Amazon or half.com), well, they wouldn’t be selling, and quite frankly, there wouldn’t be so many self-help book authors out there.  Anyways, it’s really a life-changer, this book.  It comes at the perfect time in my life maybe, although, seeing how it’s practically the story of my life, it would probably be perfect timing if I just read it again and again throughout my entire life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;GET OUT OF THAT PIT.  That’s one thing I’m learning:  About how you find yourself in the pit, whether you’ve been thrown in by someone else, or you slipped in, or if you jumped in head first all by yourself.  What the pit is, what it entails, what it does to your mind and your body and your spirit.  Why are you there, ‘why did God allow you to be there (Mama Beth pointed out to me Job 33—He does try to turn us away from it, but like she said, We want what we want, whether we like it or not.), and why should you not make a home out of it?  ‘Cause that’s easy, you know, just making yourself comfortable after being there for a while, or even if you do get out, and you just find yourself there over and over, spending more time there than you do on higher ground.  Yeah, I know, sounds like I know what I’m talking about, huh?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You know, several years back, I remember staring into a little crocheted picture in my best friend’s dorm room.  It said “Let Go, Let God.”  Yeah yeah, I thought, what a nice gift that adorned her big ugly dorm window.  Little did I know at the time, that brief little cliché verse would practically become the theme of God’s lesson for my life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Somewhere between a pit and higher ground exists a place called LETTING GO.  Another word for it is FORGIVENESS.  I’m learning that the first step to getting out of a pit and forgiving…myself and others involved.  Beth says “when we won’t forgive, the people we often want to be around least because they’ve hurt us so badly are the very people we take with us emotionally everywhere we go.”  It’s true.  How can I let go if I’m dragging around with me that kind of emotional baggage?  As an emotional person, I also have to remind myself this:  Forgiveness is not about feeling.  It’s about willing.  Beth says “first you will it and soon you’ll feel it.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A couple of years ago, I ran across this song Jeremy Camp sings, called LETTING GO.  It goes like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Linking arms so tight&lt;br /&gt;The security I have inside&lt;br /&gt;Knowing what is right Holding onto my cry&lt;br /&gt;Letting Go Of the things I hold so dear&lt;br /&gt;Letting Go Of all my pain and all my fears&lt;br /&gt;Letting Go Of the Things I hold so dear&lt;br /&gt;Letting Go Of all my pain and all my fears&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been brought to a place&lt;br /&gt;Where I want to give up everything&lt;br /&gt;Where all I can do is seek your face&lt;br /&gt;The brokenness I will bring&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chorus&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Holding onto the things I deem so strong&lt;br /&gt;Holding on even though I know ive held on too long&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chorus&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’m Letting Go!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes I wonder why this song has remained one of my favorites for so long now.  Why does it not get old?  Why don’t I think it’s cheesy like so many other songs that I quickly fall in love with and then fall right back out?  And God is like…DUHHHH.  HELLOOO!  And I remember why.  I don’t even feel like I owe an explanation on paper, though.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are three people who I think about at some point nearly every single day of my life.  I don’t speak to or see any of them anymore, really, and quite frankly, maybe it’s relatively not that long ago, but in my mind, I often ask myself, How could I still be thinking about her/him?  Why can’t I just LET GO??? It’s for the best, really.  It’s a ‘healthy decision.’   I guess that’s the short explanation of the song.  There.  Because I just can’t let go of people for some reason.  Maybe I don’t want to, maybe I do and I just don’t make the decisions to allow for it.  I don’t know…I’m working on that.  My God, I say, sometimes aloud, please just let me let go! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aside from letting go, and back to getting out of the pit, there’s another thing I’ve learned… I can’t say it as well in my own words, so I’ll just quote Beth: &lt;br /&gt;Throughout your ascent out of that pit, never lose sight of the fact that God will forever be more interested in you knowing your Healer than experiencing His healing, and knowing your Deliverer than knowing your deliverance [emphasis mine].&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I mean sure, it’s pretty clear, but do I really look at it that way?  I honestly and truly believe that out of all the times I seek God, about 90% of the time, I am seeking His healing and His deliverance—NOT HIM.  Why do we as humans seek to know God, anyways?  For many of us, maybe it’s because we know that He can do things that people can’t.  Otherwise, we’d probably just seek other people.  But we almost challenge Him—Can He heal?  Can He deliver us?  Prove it!  A lot of us don’t spend much time at all trying to KNOW HIM as THE HEALER, THE DELIVERER.  What does that mean, anyways?  What does KNOWING HIM the way He wants us to know Him entail?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another thing I learned about getting out of a pit is that once we have made it out, God NEITHER makes us stand on His firm rock NOR forces us to stay on the rock if we get there.  That is a little punch to the gut for me.  Honestly, I want God to rescue me, set me on top of a rock, and keep me there (hold my feet down if you have to).  I don’t want to fight any more fights.  I’m tired from all the fights so far.  I don’t want the opportunity to be thrown back in, slip back in, or heaven forbid, to jump back in.  I’d like to be done after the first pit dwelling.  But He doesn’t make it happen that way.  That’s the craziness to me about the freedom God gives us:  He wants us to want Him and follow Him, but He doesn’t make us do it, and consequently, it allows for the opportunity for us to be severely hurt.  Over and over again.  Wow.  What a frustration.  How can a loving God watch us hurt ourselves again and again?  Right—because it only proves to us the reason we should have followed Him all along.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just a little more to go.  What it’s like to be out of the pit.  How to avoid pits in your future.  Well, I’m not sure exactly what it’s like to be out of a pit for longer than I’ve been in one.  I can see the light at the top, but I am still climbing up the mud wall from the bottom of a very deep pit.  And how to avoid doing it again, boy am I interested in that advice!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-8655273532381493141?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/8655273532381493141/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=8655273532381493141&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/8655273532381493141'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/8655273532381493141'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2007/07/ok-guys-let-me-try-this-again.html' title=''/><author><name>meanonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-8405962872349112107</id><published>2007-07-06T16:27:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-07-06T18:06:45.024-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Delighting in Obedience</title><content type='html'>I've never been much of a blogger, but I'll give it a try.  I'll start with the question I have been tossing around in recent weeks:  What about tithing?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Personally, I haven't been giving to Logos faithfully or even regularly for a very long time now.  Why not?  Well, I've allowed myself remain in a rut of complacency that has permeated all aspects of my life.  My giving habits are only a symptom of the deeper problem - namely the attitude of my heart.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I allow the Lord to help me up out of that nasty rut, a desire to give back to the Lord financially is growing in my heart.  I have already sent in the first of several offerings that will catch me up on my tithe for the income I've earned at my current job, which brings me to another question I would like to discuss:  Is tithing 10% of my income a New Testament (NT) mandate or just a good idea?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My response to that question is "I don't care whether or not it is a NT mandate.  That is the minimum I want to give to the Lord!"  Here's my take on (OT) Law as it applies to NT believers:  It shows us that we are sinful and incapable of living up to God's standard, and it reveals God's heart for His people.  You see, I think God commanded the Israelites to rest on the Sabbath because He created man with a need for rest...so I take a day each week that I have no to-do list.  I don't live under the Law, but God says it's important to rest a day each week, so I do just that.  (By the way, this implies 6 days of work rather than the American standard of 5.  I am also exploring the implications of that on my work schedule and recreational activities.  What do you think about that, Danny?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Getting back to tithing - I haven't taken time to figure out whether or not the 10% rule applies to NT believers because I am not interested in doing the minimum required of me.  I'd rather live by the wisdom Paul expresses as he writes to the Corinthian believers regarding the generous gift they promised to him and the brethren.  "Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously.  &lt;span id="en-NIV-28948" class="sup"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver" 2 Corinthians 9:6-7.  Chapters 8 &amp; 9 provide some though-provoking reading about how our giving habits flow from the heart.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, I hope you've enjoyed this lengthy dissertation.  I'll close with a challenge.  What are your convictions about tithing?  Have you been living according to those convictions?  If not, how are you doing in other aspects of your walk with Christ?  Have you simply been neglectful with your giving, or is it part of a larger spiritual problem?  If you have been faithful with your first-fruits and have noticed ways in which the Lord has blessed you for your obedience, the rest of us would love to hear about it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Him - Brian&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-8405962872349112107?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/8405962872349112107/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=8405962872349112107&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/8405962872349112107'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/8405962872349112107'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2007/07/delighting-in-obedience.html' title='Delighting in Obedience'/><author><name>Brian</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-5298351821846570142</id><published>2007-05-12T20:55:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-05-12T23:13:42.148-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Sprechen Sie Deutsch?</title><content type='html'>Hello there.  I hope all is well in your world.  We'll be sending out a newsletter by the end of May to keep you informed with the latest Logos happenings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The purpose of this post is to tell you about the blog (&lt;a href="http://drockindeutschland.wordpress.com/"&gt;D-Rock in Deutschland&lt;/a&gt;) I'm setting up to keep you informed of my activities in Germany over the summer.  I'll be updating that blog regularly (yes, more regularly than we've been updating this blog) so you can see how God's story for us unfolds this summer.  I'd love for you to send e-mails or leave comments on the blog - but be aware that I may not have much time to communicate with folks back in the States other than the blog.  I'll return to the States in mid/late August.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you find time, I'd very much appreciate your prayers both as I prep for the summer and during my time in Germany.  I can't wait to see the amazing things God has in store.  Thanks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--Derik&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;p.s.  Continue checking this blog during the summer also.  I'm recruiting more of our folks to begin contributing their thoughts and stories on this blog so you can better see how God is at work in our midst.  Thanks for sticking with us.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-5298351821846570142?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/5298351821846570142/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=5298351821846570142&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/5298351821846570142'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/5298351821846570142'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2007/05/sprechen-sie-deutsch.html' title='Sprechen Sie Deutsch?'/><author><name>Derik</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09081254391790404032</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RZoUICbZifI/AAAAAAAAAAM/f3XVjRXz39g/s320/IMG_2042_1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-7107705468799940431</id><published>2007-05-04T21:28:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-05-04T21:32:26.253-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Like Peter</title><content type='html'>And I am like Peter&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. For prior to the coming of certain men from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles, but when they came, he began to withdraw and hold himself aloof, fearing the party of the circumcision.” Galatians 2:11-12&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It all started with a post on my wall. A post that I initially laughed at but was also more than a little appalled at. The thoughts that ran through my head were “What would xyz think about me and my walk.” Not what would the non-Christians in my world think, but what would the Christians I know think. I was worried about me seeming to have fallen away from God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The struggle is to be like Peter is great. I understand a little too well what was going through his mind when he was seen with the Gentiles. “What if they question my Jewishness. What if they believe I have fallen. What if I look less holy. What will they think, will they judge me. They won’t understand.” And so he pulls away. I’ve pulled away. But I also have stayed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can honestly say I have been in the midst of conversations that I would rather not have been. Places I would not have chosen to go. But I go because someone needs to bear the light. The temptation to stay away is just as great as to remain. There is always the danger that instead of making a difference you will instead fall. There is always the danger that instead of making a difference, you will chose the easier seemingly more Christian path and withdraw-- and just look from a distance. Hoping that your light will shine from afar instead of walking into the dark.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Walking the line is hard. It is harder than falling for the world or withdrawing from the world. It’s hard. And it is harder when you do it alone. My prayer for Mac-Town and me is to no longer go at it alone. It is so easy to lose focus and lose steam… and just float by and call it ministry to the lost. My prayer is for a deep, rocking accountability that reaches towards God and in reaching towards God reaching towards the lost. I need another woman to walk beside me. Oh I need it I need it. Pray for that for me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; We are not created to go in alone. The temptation is too great&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-7107705468799940431?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/7107705468799940431/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=7107705468799940431&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/7107705468799940431'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/7107705468799940431'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2007/05/like-peter.html' title='Like Peter'/><author><name>nnena</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-8860946748781551018</id><published>2007-04-04T22:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-04-05T06:33:38.336-04:00</updated><title type='text'>oh the places we will go</title><content type='html'>It started with a belated Seder dinner and 5 screaming kids.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was a conversation on the idea of jewishness being a racial identity or a religion. And then the question was asked by the buddist, yes there was a buddist at the Seder and there was also a very doubting jew (we also had a couple of unitatians sprinkled in there too), “Can you be jewish and not believe in God? And then that question led to “Can you be a Christian and not believe in Christ being the Son of God?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And oh the places we went, oh the places we went.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The conversation led to the point of “The 2nd commandment does not go far enough. God should not even be spoken of in words. Because he is incomprehensible. Music silence, is a better fit.” Said the doubting jew&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“But man has to tell of what he sees and moves him” said the christian.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And then the conversation went to other places&lt;br /&gt;Where is God?&lt;br /&gt;Is free will a crock? How can He not be beyond us and that we do? Isn't God bigger than that?&lt;br /&gt;God is uncontrollable and his incomprehensibility is seen in the fact that he is a God of love yet also the God who killed the first born of the Egyptians. Remember he is incomprehensible? What about suffering?&lt;br /&gt;Can I believe in a God who killed my unborn child? Where is he in our miscarriage?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh the places we went in the conversation&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the evening ended with two statements/thoughts. The first one was said at the table, “if you can show me where God is in the suffering, where his glory is, what his glory means, I could believe and be a happier man, can you show me that nnena”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second thought(i guess it is actually a set of statements) "I studied Christianity because it was what I was not supposed to do and the eastern religions scared me. and I started reading the gospels and thought “This is what it means to be a Christianity. This is the jesus of the bible? He is so radical, so different than the Christianity of the west. Someone comes up to you and hits you and you turn the other check? That does not appeal to my ego. George Bush can’t be a Christian. But what I think gives him an escape hatch is John 3:16. But what about social justice and all this other stuff that is not about personal salvation that is in the bible? Is in the new testament and the words of jesus. It is easy to believe in personal salvation, I want to believe in the gospel being about my personal salvation, I mean who wouldn’t. It appeals to my ego but what about the rest?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh the places we went, oh the places we went.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-8860946748781551018?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/8860946748781551018/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=8860946748781551018&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/8860946748781551018'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/8860946748781551018'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2007/04/oh-places-we-will-go.html' title='oh the places we will go'/><author><name>nnena</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-1873676993227872390</id><published>2007-03-16T22:57:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-03-17T00:13:22.460-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Thank you Mr. Fénelon, may I have another?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RfOBTRsZ-cI/AAAAAAAAAAo/41zRkaJCdmQ/s1600-h/481px-Fenelon.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RfOBTRsZ-cI/AAAAAAAAAAo/41zRkaJCdmQ/s200/481px-Fenelon.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5040514576124869058" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Let me begin this post by saying how much I love and appreciate knowledge.   I like to study, and I like it when others do the same.   I think everyone should know what they believe as specifically as possible.   I'm pro-preaching and pro-teaching (well, at least good preaching and teaching), and I think it's a good idea to memorize lots and lots of Scripture.   That being said, here's a thought to ponder.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;I was recently reading a letter written by &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francois_F%C3%A9nelon"&gt;François Fénelon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt; (pictured above) to a guy he knew (let's just call this other guy "Derik" because apparently we have some of the same issues). He concludes the letter as follows, "Do you believe that it is possible that the love of God, and the abandonment of self for His sake, is only to be reached through acquiring so much knowledge?  You have already more than you use, and need further illuminations much less than the practice of what you already know."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I consider the struggles and failures in my own life, the problem (more often than not) wasn't that I needed someone to explain the right thing to do in a new and innovative way or even that I needed to read another book about it - it was that I understood the right thing to do and just flat out chose not to do it.  It wasn't a knowledge issue but rather an issue of obedience.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;In another letter, Fénelon warns, "If we are not careful, the acquisition of knowledge will so occupy this life that we will need another to reduce our acquirements into practice."  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;For followers of Jesus, having lots of input and little or no output is very unhealthy.   That's not how God designed us to function.  We're designed to function in a rhythm of hearing the word of God and then putting it into practice.  Often we're content to hear the word of God, tuck it away for safe keeping, hear some more, and continue the process until our minds are chalked full of information but our lives still bear no resemblance to that of Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May God give all of us the wisdom to take what's already in our heads and hearts and live it.  And may we acquire further knowledge and understanding only to use it in becoming the men and women God has made us to be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--Derik&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-1873676993227872390?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/1873676993227872390/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=1873676993227872390&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/1873676993227872390'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/1873676993227872390'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2007/03/thank-you-mr-fnelon-may-i-have-another.html' title='Thank you Mr. Fénelon, may I have another?'/><author><name>Derik</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09081254391790404032</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RZoUICbZifI/AAAAAAAAAAM/f3XVjRXz39g/s320/IMG_2042_1.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RfOBTRsZ-cI/AAAAAAAAAAo/41zRkaJCdmQ/s72-c/481px-Fenelon.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-6834137627116170635</id><published>2007-02-26T19:34:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-02-26T21:30:10.406-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Just in case you were wondering . . .</title><content type='html'>Hi.  Today was a good day.  Mondays have become my administrative work/study/not-be-around-many-other-people day.  It's normally quite productive, and today was no exception.  But what made today especially pleasant was my office (oddly enough).  The weather in Atlanta was gorgeous, so I moved my office from my house to a picnic table on the lake at &lt;a href="http://www.stonemountainpark.com"&gt;Stone Mountain Park&lt;/a&gt;.  I'm not sure how much say you have in where your office is - but if you ever get the chance to have it at the park on a beautiful day, I highly recommend it.  But enough small talk, let's get into big talk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We've mentioned in previous posts a monthly gathering we created for various small, simple churches around the city to get together.  Well, there have been a few kinks in the system (for example, normally our church is the only one there).  We've definitely got some learning to do.  We're currently trying to discern if most house churches just generally don't play well with others or if there really is a way to bring them together periodically.  If it's indeed possible, we just need to figure out how.  If it's not possible, then we'll find something more productive to do.  We'll keep you posted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In recent months, we've formed relationships with several folks who are ministering overseas but needing administrative help and spiritual support from folks back in the States.  It's a good opportunity for us to provide practical help and support for folks who are engaged in cross-cultural ministry.  In the future, we'll try to give you more details (as much as possible) about the work these folks are doing.  If you'd ever like to give toward their work, just let us know.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It appears that I'll be spending most of this summer helping out with a ministry in Germany.  Should be quite fun.  I'll keep you updated on that.  We'll also keep you updated with other upcoming spring and summer happenings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There's much more to tell, but this will have to do for now.  Your comments are always welcome.  Thanks for your time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--Derik&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-6834137627116170635?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/6834137627116170635/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=6834137627116170635&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/6834137627116170635'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/6834137627116170635'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2007/02/just-in-case-you-were-wondering.html' title='Just in case you were wondering . . .'/><author><name>Derik</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09081254391790404032</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RZoUICbZifI/AAAAAAAAAAM/f3XVjRXz39g/s320/IMG_2042_1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-4801112409383513010</id><published>2007-02-07T22:05:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-02-07T22:51:13.331-05:00</updated><title type='text'>New Links</title><content type='html'>Hello there.  I'm not sure if you've noticed, but we've recently been changing around the items in our "Links" section.  I thought it may be beneficial to give a brief description of each link and perhaps mention why we like it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The International Mission Board (IMB) is a Southern Baptist entity whose focus is bringing the good news of Jesus to people outside of North America.  We support the IMB not only because we have some affiliation with Southern Baptists (some days more than others), but because they do good work.  While many believers in the US have a hard time caring about anything outside the walls of a church building, the IMB looks outside its own culture and seeks to be a part of what God is doing all over the world (which in turn affects our own culture).  They pour themselves into making disciples around the world and work tirelessly mobilizing others to do the same.  We especially appreciate their focus on keeping church simple, adaptable, and easy to multiply.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Church Multiplication Associates (CMA) is an organization that exists "to facilitate church multiplication movements by focusing resources on reproducing healthy disciples, leaders, churches and movements" (quoted from their website).  This ministry is headed up by Neil Cole, who has written several very useful and thought-provoking books (including &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Organic-Church-Growing-Faith-Happens/dp/078798129X/sr=8-1/qid=1170900973/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-4468427-5985768?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Organic Church&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; ).  The site has many valuable resources, articles, and information on conferences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The third link is to a prayer guide organized by Operation World.  The focus of Operation World is gathering and guiding prayer for the nations.  The link will bring you to their online prayer guide.  Click on the map and you'll be given some facts about the country and specific ways to pray for the people there. I also encourage you to invest in a copy of Operation World's &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Operation-World-When-Pray-Works/dp/1850783578/ref=si3_rdr_bb_product/104-7449976-7715125?ie=UTF8"&gt;prayer handbook&lt;/a&gt; .  It's an excellent resource for both personal and corporate times of prayer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Waymakers is a ministry whose purpose is mobilizing people to saturate their community and the world with prayer.  They are especially adept at the ministry of prayerwalking (which they call praying on-site with insight).  This powerful method of praying can be done almost anywhere by almost anyone.  The site is stocked with practical prayerwalking instruction and useful resources.  Check it out and start covering your community with prayer today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Universal Disciple is a little-known site devoted to ideas on discipleship, leadership, and cross-cultural ministry.  Some of the ideas may make your head spin a bit if it's your first exposure to them, but there's some really great stuff here.  Perhaps you haven't heard of Thom Wolf because most of his stuff isn't published, but he's been been among those leading the way in missional thinking for many years.  It's well worth your time to check it out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, I think this sets a record for lengthy Logos blog posts - but hopefully it was beneficial.  I'll try to post an update on recent thoughts and/or Logos happenings soon.  Thanks for your time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--Derik&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-4801112409383513010?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/4801112409383513010/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=4801112409383513010&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/4801112409383513010'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/4801112409383513010'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2007/02/new-links.html' title='New Links'/><author><name>Derik</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09081254391790404032</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RZoUICbZifI/AAAAAAAAAAM/f3XVjRXz39g/s320/IMG_2042_1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-6307512288454776352</id><published>2006-12-09T22:55:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-09T23:13:48.643-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Gathering</title><content type='html'>Hi.  Well, it's been a while.  I'll do better next time.  Now, down to business.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We've been doing something fun the last couple of months.  We've been inviting some other small, simple churches from around the Atlanta area to join us once a month for a time of singing, praying, teaching, hanging out, and just general celebration together.  It's still taking shape, so we don't know exactly what it will look like as it moves forward - but so far it's been encouraging to connect with other churches and encourage one another.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With all the benefits that we proclaim regarding small, simple churches, there are also some dangers that are inherent in this way of being church.  One of the biggest dangers is becoming disconnected from the larger body of Christ.  In fact, as I understand it, many house churches form precisely for the reason of disconneting themselves from others in the body of Christ (just in case you're wondering - that's not good).  So the monthly gathering is one way to avoid this danger of disconnection.  Think of the description of the church in Acts 2: the dynamic between meeting in homes and gathering together at the temple (though we don't know exactly what that looked like).  As a side note, there are other activities we're thinking through that will also allow us more connection with the larger body.  More to come on that later.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also thought I'd share that since my last post, one of the girls we hang out with has become a follower of Jesus.  Watching her grow closer to Jesus brings me more joy right now than just about anything else I can think of.  God is so amazing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--Derik&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-6307512288454776352?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/6307512288454776352/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=6307512288454776352&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/6307512288454776352'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/6307512288454776352'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2006/12/gathering.html' title='The Gathering'/><author><name>Derik</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09081254391790404032</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RZoUICbZifI/AAAAAAAAAAM/f3XVjRXz39g/s320/IMG_2042_1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-116519747302893400</id><published>2006-12-03T20:53:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-03T20:57:53.040-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Double dipping</title><content type='html'>Well it has been a while since anyone has posted anything... so i thought i would double dip from my own blog and catch y'all up quickly. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;quick update &lt;br /&gt;Because i am avoiding studying i thought i would give y'all a quick update.&lt;br /&gt;Finals are here! Rejoice, let the people rejoice... i think... :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ansley, who y'all will remember as the girl who left Macon, is engaged! Yeah Ansley. Charise's wedding in this January. Yea Charise! More on what is going on witht he group later... there have been changes... lots of them... but like everything in life, God ordained. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Actually it has been an amazing semester filled with lots of God grabbing my attention. I've gotten to know some good people better and i have been challenged by people i have known a while too. Overall i can not complain. &lt;br /&gt;Soon after Civil procedure on Friday I will catch y'all up on what is going on here in Macon. For now here is a peak at the thoughts of the moment&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This morning people were giving prayer requests about the physical issues that the people close to them are going through... and i was listening... a mother with 4 kids who has cancer, a college freshman with cancer... to a guy being sent to Pakistan to work... and the thought that ran through my head is this. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We all die. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is not a big surprise, we can't avoid it, it happens. But we don't all live... some of us rather be safe than live... The question that i have to ask myself is did i live well and did i die well? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I get very tied up to living life... and that is because until Christ took a hold of me, life meant nothing to me... so for me wanting to live and Christianity are the same thing... but i think it is as i am getting older that i understand what it really means to live life. It is not just feeling everything to the extremes, it is not just having fun, or loving people, though that is part of it... but it is not being afraid of death or dying and being willing to risk your life for Christ... that is life... and it doesn't mean that you get shipped off to a far away land, though it might be that too... but am i dying, right here, right now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The funny things is that it is often easier to say "Yes God" to sending you to a dangerous war zone... than to say "Yes God." to the person who is hurting you in this very second. Will I say “Yes God” when my husband is hurting my heart? It is often easy to say "Yes God" to the person who is persecuting you for your faith than then person you love persecuting you... and you saying, forgive them Father they don't know what they are doing. My greatest heroes have been women who have forgiven the men who have raped them, their grandfather who molested them, the coach who assaulted them. They are my heroes... because the gospel message of forgiveness, mercy, grace, is not just an intellectual exercise for them but a stark and very real reality. They have forgiven the people who hurt them and are still in relationship (some of them have to be because of blood) with them... and their forgiveness is still there. Those are my heroes. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyways that is a brief catch up. I pray i live well and die well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;till the next catch up&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-116519747302893400?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/116519747302893400/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=116519747302893400&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/116519747302893400'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/116519747302893400'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2006/12/double-dipping.html' title='Double dipping'/><author><name>nnena</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-115837964737930874</id><published>2006-09-16T23:45:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-12-02T20:16:43.766-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Latest Happenings</title><content type='html'>Hi there.  I thought it was well past time to update the blog with some of the latest happenings at Logos.  We've been going through some transitions lately.  Here are a few:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Two Logos folks (Nnena &amp; Joseph) returned back to their schools (Mercer Law School &amp; Brewton-Parker, respectively) after spending the summer with us here in Atlanta.  We enjoyed our time with them here and now pray for them as they seek to share Jesus with the students around them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. At the end of August, Heather followed her lifelong dream of moving to New York City.  She is now living in Brooklyn, working at a coffee shop on the NYU campus, and meeting with a simple church seeking to infiltrate NYC with the love of Jesus.  You can keep track of Heather's journey at her &lt;a href="http://cahillinnewyork.blogspot.com/"&gt;blog &lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Danny has taken a consulting job to help make ends meet financially for his family.  Although this usually takes him out of town during the week, he's still hard at work with his normal Logos responsibilities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. In October, we'll be bringing together our groups with some other simple churches for a time of worship and celebration.  This gathering will become a monthly occurrance.  We'll be sharing more details on this as the time draws near.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So change has been the norm for us lately.  Luckily, one of the strengths of the way we do church is our adaptability.  The more complex something becomes, the more difficult it is to adapt to change - and the church must always be able to adapt to the constant change that is life.  Adapting is rarely easy and can often be confusing and uncomfortable, but if the church is to be an effective missional agency, it must learn to embrace change and thrive in uncertainty.  Thank you so much for your continued prayers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--Derik&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-115837964737930874?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/115837964737930874/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=115837964737930874&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/115837964737930874'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/115837964737930874'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2006/09/latest-happenings.html' title='The Latest Happenings'/><author><name>Derik</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09081254391790404032</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RZoUICbZifI/AAAAAAAAAAM/f3XVjRXz39g/s320/IMG_2042_1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-115566115335425360</id><published>2006-08-15T12:45:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-15T12:59:13.426-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Macon Year Two</title><content type='html'>The beginning of this year has brought some changes for our Macon group. Number one change is that one of our members has decided that law school and being a lawyer was not the right fit for her. Ansley, previous blogs, is not coming back. Her leaving changes the dynamic. Ansley was definitely excited about what was happening and what could happen here in Macon. In addition Ansley and Sommer have a special and close bond... Sommer misses 'her heart'. Law school is a mentally difficult place and Ansley was her friend,her strength that helped her get through the last semester. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But in other news Ben has come back more excited and ready to meet. Praise God!. Energy is so needed right now. I am excited about the new people that might join us. On a selfish level I need the energy and the freshness of people passionate about God and talking of Him. And so I am excited and hopeful of the new class and what they will add to us and the fact that Ben's heart is in it. Thank you God. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So pray for us. Pray that we will buckle down and chase God. Pray that in chasing God we will pull other people with us. Pray for more direction and more deliberate actions, actions that matter such as prayer. Hello prayer the greater work. Pray for some of the new people to challenge and motivate us to see beyond ourselves to what can be. There is hope for life here at Mercer. There really is hope. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well that us all from us...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We covet, desire, need, beg for your prayers. Pray for us.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-115566115335425360?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/115566115335425360/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=115566115335425360&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/115566115335425360'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/115566115335425360'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2006/08/macon-year-two.html' title='Macon Year Two'/><author><name>nnena</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-115361012084510583</id><published>2006-07-22T19:10:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-11-18T14:34:51.890-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Leadership</title><content type='html'>Ephesians 4:11 mentions several roles or functions of church leadership - apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, and teacher (some scholars argue that pastor and teacher refer to one person who should be designated pastor/teacher - but we'll assume for this discussion that it refers to two people - thereby giving us five roles).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In future posts I would love to discuss the purposes and functions of these various types of church leaders.  I'd also enjoy discussing elders and deacons and how they fit into the mix.  My question for now is this:  Do we see all of these leaders in the church today?  Is there a healthy balance between these leadership functions, or have some risen in prominence to the detriment of others?  Should there be an equal balance between the five or not?  I'd love to hear your thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--Derik&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-115361012084510583?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/115361012084510583/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=115361012084510583&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/115361012084510583'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/115361012084510583'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2006/07/leadership.html' title='Leadership'/><author><name>Derik</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09081254391790404032</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RZoUICbZifI/AAAAAAAAAAM/f3XVjRXz39g/s320/IMG_2042_1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-114965061441182342</id><published>2006-06-06T23:22:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-07-13T23:23:22.696-04:00</updated><title type='text'>so what does it mean for me to be light?</title><content type='html'>What is a christian place in social issues? Right now i am figuring out my theology on the topic... Today i had dinner with Ann, an old roommate of mine. She and i are going to enter into dialouges about social justice/theology... again the question is what is the christian role in society? Is the gospel only salvation of sins or are there other issues tied into it... Now before everyone thinks i am floating off into outer space let me state that true change, lasting change, life only comes from Christ... I still believe that my calling (our calling) is for people to know God in a real manner (not sunday school christianity but real life)... so what does that look like... but can we as Christian ignore the realities around us... such as racism, poverty etc... does the christian role in the world as being salt and light stop short of anything other than Jesus came and died for our sins. Is that the only type of light we are supposed to be? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyways that is what i am grappling with right now... it plays heavily into every person I meet that is not a Christian... I think the best way to describe the mind set of the people i know is this quote from a book i started reading. Here a young jewish man is in South Africa during apartheid. Gets into a conversation with the author of the book about how God is calling him to know Christ but one thing holds him back&lt;br /&gt;" I looked at James [jewish young man] and replied ' James i believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross and rose again for you.' James 'I believe that Ron i really do... I just don't want to be like the white Christians (black people too) here. They sing about the love of Jesus and the joy of heaven, but they don't care about justice in South Africa. If i become a Christian, will I have to give up the struggle?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is a whole view of Christianity? What is the complete gospel? Why did God punish the isrealites for their lack of concern about the poor or justice... what does that mean for the modern Christian.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I pray that this summer i learn about that... I pray that through Ann and I talking and exploring and being honest with each other we find some sort of solution for how God is calling us. As i was reading today I was reminded how woefully little i know... and how hard my heart is. I will be the first to admit my heart does not break daily for the poor. my heart does not break daily for injustice. my heart does not break daily for people that go hungry everyday... what is my role in showing people all of Christ's heart. What is all of Christ's heart?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;this was not a short note. :)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-114965061441182342?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/114965061441182342/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=114965061441182342&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114965061441182342'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114965061441182342'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2006/06/so-what-does-it-mean-for-me-to-be.html' title='so what does it mean for me to be light?'/><author><name>nnena</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-114675133375006298</id><published>2006-05-07T09:52:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-28T22:55:29.653-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Community and Solitude, Part 1</title><content type='html'>"Let him who cannot be alone beware of community.&lt;br /&gt;Let him who is not in community beware of being alone."&lt;br /&gt;                              - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Life Together&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are some of the most insightful words I've ever read regarding Christian community.  Community is high on the list of modern buzz words, which means that everyone is using it but no one really knows what it means.  I use it a lot, and I'm not always sure I know what it means.  That's unfortunate - because it's a concept that's integral to the normal, everyday life of a follower of Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are many different angles we can take in discussing community, but for my next few posts I would like to narrow the focus to the balance between community and solitude.  I believe understanding that balance is one of the keys to understanding what a healthy community looks like and how it functions.  It is not "the" key to understanding Christian community - that would be understanding community as existing only in and through Jesus Christ.  But achieving a healthy balance between community and solitude (fellowship &amp; seclusion, speech &amp; silence) would be an important piece to fit into the larger puzzle of Christian community.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The healthy balance of community and solitude in the life of a Jesus follower is not grist for the mill of incessant theological ramblings.  It's important to me because it's one of the things we are struggling to learn at Logos.  How much time should a healthy community spend together?  Is there a minimum amount of time?  How much is too much?  Are there some things that must happen during that time together?  What expectations should one bring to his/her community?  How does solitude play into all of this?  I'd love to hear some of your thoughts on this.  You'll get more of mine later.  Thanks for listening.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--Derik&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-114675133375006298?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/114675133375006298/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=114675133375006298&amp;isPopup=true' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114675133375006298'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114675133375006298'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2006/05/community-and-solitude-part-1.html' title='Community and Solitude, Part 1'/><author><name>Derik</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09081254391790404032</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RZoUICbZifI/AAAAAAAAAAM/f3XVjRXz39g/s320/IMG_2042_1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-114536837287530100</id><published>2006-04-18T09:49:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-04-29T00:18:41.406-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The scent of Sommer or why I needed community this morning</title><content type='html'>So i ran into Sommer this morning at the gym... it wasn't until later on that i realized how much i needed her. &lt;br /&gt;Sommer started sharing with me what she was reading, learning, and what God was teaching her... and i was soaking it all in. You know how sometimes you forget that you are hungry. And then you smell something that reminds you of your hunger? She brought a sense, scent, of life with her this morning. And i needed that to remind me that I am hungry for God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you Sommer.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-114536837287530100?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/114536837287530100/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=114536837287530100&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114536837287530100'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114536837287530100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2006/04/scent-of-sommer-or-why-i-needed.html' title='The scent of Sommer or why I needed community this morning'/><author><name>nnena</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-114495845582772072</id><published>2006-04-13T15:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-04-17T21:04:55.566-04:00</updated><title type='text'>High Cost</title><content type='html'>A high cost&lt;br /&gt;That was the thought that was running through my head when I left the Seder dinner, and it almost made me cry.&lt;br /&gt;The Jewish community is amazing. His family is amazing, strong and close. His sister invited me to her Bat Mitzihav... the whole evening I was invited into their world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Their love and passion for each other and a desire to see each other succeed and be happy is amazing. The depth of love that everyone has, and in his particular family there are few secrets. There is nothing hidden and the family friends speak freely into the lives of the children. They are full of life and laughter. The house laughed, even when sad, it laughed. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They made sure I understood everything that was going on. “Wait slow down, this is Nnena’s first seder make sure she sees and understands.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We sang songs and prayers. There was one song that stuck in my head the song had a phrase, Dayeinu, and what it meant is “Thank you God for over doing it,” And we said this after each verse in a song about how God brought them out of Egypt. The way the Seder book explain the song was that ‘the point of the poem is to express gratitude for every facet of God’s miraculous deliverance. The poet feels the living power of each gesture of divine favor, irrespective of the total result. Had You only done this and no more- it would have been enough for me to feel Your divine love. The principle of dayeinu, or giving thanks even for the partial and incomplete, is crucial for living in this uncertain world… We thank God every day for the miracle of being alive.’&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Early in the dinner there was a sack that contained three pieces of Matza and one of the pieces of Matza (Afikoman) was broken and hidden for the children to find at a later time. I think one of the amazing things was when the children found the Afikoman… and the parents had to give a ransom to get it back from the children. Ah you see the symbolism? But the things that got me was that there was a twist to it, the children could give ten percent of the ransom they got for the Afikoman and their parents would match it and they would give it to some one else in bondage and someone who needs help. Hum… &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After dinner we continued the story from the Seder and at a point of the story his uncle looked at me and said “we believe that the Messiah has not come yet and we are still waiting for him.” &lt;br /&gt;I heard what he was saying under that statement. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Everything they are and their world is tied up in being Jewish… and being Jewish means waiting for the messiah to come… there does not seem to be a middle ground… their identity is being Jewish, the family is Jewish, their community is Jewish and the messiah has not come… but He has. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is why the cost is so great. I understand why when someone becomes a believer and their family is Jewish or Muslim why it is so hard. Because in a way you are rejecting your family… I can’t put it in better words. I am sorry. But all I could think of when I left the dinner that evening was how great the cost was. And now I understand better the greater persecution that occurred in the Bible, the pain of being separated from your people. I understand why you must hate mother and father to follow Christ, because it would seem and be that, you had rejected the faith of your fathers what made you Jewish. You would be rejecting your family. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You would be rejecting an amazing colorful family that is full of love and life. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The cost is great&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-114495845582772072?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/114495845582772072/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=114495845582772072&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114495845582772072'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114495845582772072'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2006/04/high-cost.html' title='High Cost'/><author><name>nnena</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-114449910116296508</id><published>2006-04-08T08:15:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-04-08T08:32:20.383-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Welcome to Macon</title><content type='html'>Well my sister and her friends met my mission field last night. They came in town for a missions commissioning and after the service came to a law school party. Well after the fire alarm was set off in the elevator, Jay got sick, and the landlord called the cops (truly not as dramatic as I make that out to be) we headed downstairs into the apartment of the girls in the house. There as we were heading out the door to go back my house, Lizzy got sick. And while Matt and Ashley were in the bathroom taking care of her, the guys asked my sister and crew why they were here. So with a drunk girl throwing up in the bathroom they proceeded to tell three equally as drunk people about the mission trip they were taking. John and Charles were very curious and started thanking them going on their trip. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Welcome to my mission’s field girls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was talking to one of the Vanessa, one of Ori’s friends, about it. She said the thought that running through her head was “well when the Lord opens a door.”  I laughed. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What was cool about last night is that almost everyone from our Monday night meeting was there. Even people who normally do not get out was there to support the band (we have a law school band. They are great!) or to wish Cheryl a happy b-day (the whole reason we were there).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Prayer requests&lt;/strong&gt;: When you hang out with people there is always temptation. Pray that as a group we are strong and also individually. Also I will be going with Josh to a Seder dinner at his aunt's house this Wed. I have always been curious and now i have a friend who will let me come! Pray for good conversation with him and the family. Also pray that they understand that i am coming to learn and enjoy their culture. Pray that I don't make a fool of myself trying to pronounce Hebrew. lol.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Praise&lt;/strong&gt;: For the first time since I have been at Law School there was actually mixing of the races at a party. That is huge for Mercer. Honestly the school can be rather segregated but I guess so is the rest of the world. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks guys!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh and if y’all want to meet the gang, after finals there will be an end of year party. Everyone is invited. May 12th 2006. The band will be playing and you can meet some of the people I talk about and love. &lt;br /&gt;Till then&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-n&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-114449910116296508?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/114449910116296508/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=114449910116296508&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114449910116296508'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114449910116296508'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2006/04/welcome-to-macon.html' title='Welcome to Macon'/><author><name>nnena</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-114243972073151914</id><published>2006-03-15T11:20:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-23T09:51:51.736-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Logos Macon</title><content type='html'>For those of you who do not know... there is a group of us who meet in Macon... all of us are first year law students... anyway the meeting have been going well with lots of talking and thinking... here is a question that one of the crew tossed out this week. I'll see if i am allowed to publish some of the thoughts that are flying back and forth with us over e-mail. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also feel free to think and wrestle with us too... we (logos macon) are reading the posts and want to know what y'all think and how you are struggling growing, having great or not so great conversations... journey with us, please. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-n&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ansley's question&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Okay, y'all...I tend to be verbose when I'm not sure how to articulate my thoughts, but I promise to try to keep this short. I guess one question that remains for me after last night is this: when do we let honesty into relationships with others? When is silence as we "build the relationship" just avoiding the topic...and when is silence condoning the behavior? Does that make sense?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think there is a line that we tow when we're in relationships that are not based in Christianity...relationships with non-Christians, or "hypocritical" (from Monday's discussion) Christians. I guess I don't know where that line is, when you're too close, and when it's okay to cross it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe it'll help if I make this specific: I have a good friend who is not a Christian and has no interest in becoming a Christian. Some have suggested that I cut her out and move on. I disagree. But it's true that there is a certain depth that this relationship will never reach because we don't have the spiritual connection needed to reach the deepest depths. So IS there a point where you have to let these people go? Is there a point where you have to bring up the topic and force the conversation? Or is it okay to go on forever without the discussion?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When is it necessary to be honest about ourselves outloud? Not just live the light?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope this makes sense. Thanks, y'all. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have a good week. - Ansley&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-114243972073151914?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/114243972073151914/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=114243972073151914&amp;isPopup=true' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114243972073151914'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114243972073151914'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2006/03/logos-macon.html' title='Logos Macon'/><author><name>nnena</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-114205490979243587</id><published>2006-03-10T23:47:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-11T00:51:17.970-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Nothin' Much</title><content type='html'>Well, we don't seem to have a lot of comments on the posts so far, but it's all good.  Feel free to comment if you'd like.  If not, just sit back and enjoy the ride.  It's been a pretty normal week for me:  a couple of days with my Sudanese friends, quite a bit of time in coffee shops (even though I don't drink coffee), some time in study, a bit of time in meetings (good meetings), and most importantly some great time with God.  Friday is my rest day so I went to the park and read.  Then I went to a German restaurant because I was missing Europe.  Good times.  Tomorrow it's back to work at the coolest job in the world - helping to start new churches.  See ya.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--Derik&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-114205490979243587?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/114205490979243587/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=114205490979243587&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114205490979243587'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114205490979243587'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2006/03/nothin-much.html' title='Nothin&apos; Much'/><author><name>Derik</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09081254391790404032</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RZoUICbZifI/AAAAAAAAAAM/f3XVjRXz39g/s320/IMG_2042_1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-114119112567946431</id><published>2006-03-02T10:45:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-05-07T16:03:35.010-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Just Pondering</title><content type='html'>What role should tradition play in shaping the church?  This is a question that often rolls around in my head and was recently brought to the forefront in a conversion I had with a friend.  I am especially concerned with this question for two reasons:&lt;br /&gt;1. I love church history and feel a very strong respect for and connection with believers who have gone before us.&lt;br /&gt;2. Logos is described by many as a non-traditional church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me frame the discussion.  At Logos, we begin to answer the question, "What is church?" by looking at Jesus.  By observing who Jesus is and the mission for which He came to earth, we are able to understand the mission of the church.  Once the mission of the church is firmly grasped, forms and structures can then be implemented to achieve that mission.  A few specifics are given in scripture to help guide the church (Lord's Supper, baptism, the importance of leadership, etc.), but there is relatively little discussion regarding external forms and structures.  It just so happens that at Logos we believe a very simple form is the best way to pursue the particular mission God has given our church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So here is the question:  Are we at Logos actually disregarding or disrespecting church history because our forms and structures are not guided very much by church tradition?  My friend says that getting one's forms and structures from scripture alone is discounting the movement of the Spirit in guiding believers who have gone before us.  While I do not agree, I do recognize the temptation for each generation of church to think they have it all figured out and thus not appreciate the efforts of past generations.  But are we as believers really to honor and imitate the external forms and structures of our forefathers, or is it only their faith that we are to imitate?  Does anybody out there have a clue what I'm talking about?  Who gets to decide which traditions to keep and which ones to let go?  When is church tradition important as a link to the historical church and when does it become an empty ritual carried on because "that's the way we've always done it"?  These are the weighty questions that steal sleep away from me and keep me on my knees.  I would love to hear some of you thoughts on the matter (don't feel like you have to be as long-winded as me).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--Derik&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-114119112567946431?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/114119112567946431/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=114119112567946431&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114119112567946431'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114119112567946431'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2006/03/just-pondering.html' title='Just Pondering'/><author><name>Derik</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09081254391790404032</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RZoUICbZifI/AAAAAAAAAAM/f3XVjRXz39g/s320/IMG_2042_1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-114121031716558303</id><published>2006-03-01T05:50:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T15:17:47.840-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>So what does it look like for me to be deliberate here? Well I had just read the newsletter that had gone out for logos… and it hit me with conviction and a sense of lostness. I started asking God so what do I need to do here to make a difference, God I have gotten so wrapped up in my world, how can I reach people. God this is serious business and I have lost sight of that again. What do you want me to be what should I do… And then I hear a knock on my door and it is josh.&lt;br /&gt;“You rolling with us to shamrock tonight.”&lt;br /&gt;“naw I got things I need to do.”&lt;br /&gt;“it smells good in here.”&lt;br /&gt;“I cooked some stir fry… do you want some?”&lt;br /&gt;“You serious,”&lt;br /&gt;“yeah, hold on a sec”&lt;br /&gt;... so josh came in and we talked… up until this point he had not told me about what went down with his girlfriend. A few weeks ago josh came over to the house and we talked for a while… he was not doing so good… anyways we had not talked since then… well josh came in the house and as I was grabbing some stir fry he started catching me up on what happened in new york… we sat down and then talked more.&lt;br /&gt;“she hurt me man, she hurt me real bad. How could she do this to me. But I got to take it like a man.”&lt;br /&gt;“So does taking it like a man mean, not cry or to push through it.”&lt;br /&gt;“Push through it…”&lt;br /&gt;As I was talking to him I thought “God what do I offer him?” I’ll pray for you seems so not adequate. Advice seems so… all I could do was tell him, encourage him to not let this destroy him? Was that even the right thing to say… forgiveness seemed like a paltry foolish thing to offer him right now… he needs to push through this… what good will the words I offer him do with out Christ? I don’t know. But after we got deep in the conversation he stopped eating, pushed his bowl away.&lt;br /&gt;“I can’t eat anymore talking about her has made me sick. Thanks though”&lt;br /&gt;So we stopped… he got up to go get ready to go to shamrock and he and clif just left the house.Maybe the answer to my prayer was found in that knock.Sometime I struggle here in macon. I don’t have one people group per say, I have many. How do you reach someone who is jewish and close with his family (that ties into a lot), how do you reached the churched ones. What are the words to say… I don’t know I am trying to figure that out… but when my head is on straight, and my heart is right, I want to reach people here… the question is how how how.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God help me always see the seriousness and the urgency of right now.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-114121031716558303?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/114121031716558303/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=114121031716558303&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114121031716558303'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114121031716558303'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2006/03/so-what-does-it-look-like-for-me-to-be.html' title=''/><author><name>nnena</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22523131.post-114004819979356674</id><published>2006-02-15T18:57:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-02-27T15:04:11.936-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Beginning</title><content type='html'>This is the initial post for Logos Church.  We'll figure this out as we go.  Enjoy.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/22523131-114004819979356674?l=logoschurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/feeds/114004819979356674/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22523131&amp;postID=114004819979356674&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114004819979356674'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/22523131/posts/default/114004819979356674'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://logoschurch.blogspot.com/2006/02/beginning.html' title='The Beginning'/><author><name>Derik</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09081254391790404032</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_ike0I9vOEu8/RZoUICbZifI/AAAAAAAAAAM/f3XVjRXz39g/s320/IMG_2042_1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
